μῦθοι Mythoi
Motif

The silence wager. A man and his wife make a wager as to who shall speak first (close the door). The man (woman) becomes jealous and scolds; loses the wager.

The wise and the foolish. · Fools (and other unwise persons). · Foolish extremes. · Foolish extreme. · view the constellation · filed as J2511

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Scholars’ trail — 12references

The index’s own references — the collections where scholars sighted this story-shape, tradition by tradition. Titles on our shelf are live links; the rest is the frontier, not yet shelved.

  • Italian Novella*Rotunda
  • India*Thompson-Balys.
  • general *Type 1351
  • general Child No. 275
  • general **Brown Amer. Journ. of Philol. XLIII 289
  • general *Wesselski Hodscha Nasreddin I 263
  • general Clouston Tales II 15
  • general *Basset 1001 Contes II 401
  • general Chauvin VIII 132 No. 124
  • general Clouston Noodles 108, 184
  • general Fb "tie" III 792a
  • general Christensen DF L 79
Within the index

Filed under Foolish extreme.

2 finer motifs beneath it
Wager as to who shall rise (speak) first in morning (last up to get reward). They are carried to funeral pyre before they will give inNumskulls make silence wager. Arrested as thieves
Filed beside it
The fool and the visitor's large nose. The fool asks where he got the large nose. Is removed from the room. He comes back to mend matters. He says, "What a small nose you have!" He is again taken from the room. The third time: "What difference does it make whether you have a nose or not?"Plenty of holy water. A fool hearing of the effectiveness of holy water for the forgiveness of sins pours the whole supply over himselfSickle bought at great cost given back. In a land where the sickle is not known the new sickle cuts off the head of a man and is thereupon given back to the original ownerDirections followed literally to the sorrow of the giverCouldn't wait to dress. The overzealous visitor rides naked to see his friendsAbsurd extreme of discouragementExtreme pruderyBreaking the glassware to prevent others from doing so. A king thus removes temptation from his subjectsThe obedient husband: the leave of absence. His wife says, "You may go away for a little while." He stays away for days and then sends a messenger to his wife asking if he has been away long enoughFool liking salt decides to eat nothing elseFool will not drink from a river because he cannot drink it allEqual share in the bed. Wishing to prove their equality twelve fools sleep on the ground and put their feet on the one bed provided for the chiefThief out of habit robs from his own purseLetter believed against clear evidence. Fool believes letter apparently reporting his uncle's death, though he has just seen uncleBureaucrats debate as to who shall put out palace fire: meantime palace burns"Don't eat too greedily." Fool starves himself at table. Later hunts food in house and gets into trouble
Travels with
The obstinate wife or husband. (Cf. J2511.)
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